Need some advise on a rear hub 1968 F250

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Dude! That drum and hub looks like it met the business end of a sledge hammer. Repeatedly!....
*mental note - Dont ever piss off mnyman* :lol:

Tell ya what. As long as your sure you have a D60 with the stepped down spindle tube diameter Im confident enough that the hubs I have will work for your setup.
Ill spend this week end separating the drums from the hubs and box them up for shipping. Do you need both or just one?
You don't need drums too do you?
The shipping on just the hubs shouldn't be too bad but the drums weigh a LOT!

If your willing to pay the shipping Ill send them to you and you can decide what their worth to you after you receive them. Fair enough?
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The hub looks ok. The drum looks a little messed up. Are you hard on
parts? :)
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Mnyman,
I have those same hubs on my 67, unfort I'm still using them. I did want to let you know that bearings for that hub, are hard to find. National bearing catalog list them as no longer in production. So treat yours nicely.
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Hi Wes,
Looks like you've got a nice truck. What all are you doing to it? How long have you had it? Thanks for the advice on the bearings. I was planning to use my original bearings as they only have 31K miles on them. Is it hard to find replacement races?
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mnyman wrote:Hi Wes,
.......Thanks for the advice on the bearings. I was planning to use my original bearings as they only have 31K miles on them. Is it hard to find replacement races?
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i dont know about the races but when i fixed my 68 up in SoCal a small parts store (B&C? near pepper drive and hwy 8 in ElCajon) actually had everything i needed in stock timken bearings front and rear including the grease seals and rear axle nuts and washers hell they had the brake shoes i needed :evil:

i would think that they are still out there...i recall that berry bearing was bought out by another company so you may want to look into that but this is what i found on rockauto.com...maybe it will help ya some... :dk:

1968 FORD F-250 PICKUP

Item Price Core Total
BCA Part # 15245 {Taper Bearing Cup Outer Diameter=2.441" Length=0.5625" Radius=0.046"}
Front Wheel; Outer; Tapered Cup; (Disc Brakes); (RWD)
Front Wheel; Outer; Tapered Cup; (Drum Brakes); (H/D Brakes); (RWD)
$3.86 $0.00 $3.86

BCA Part # 25520 {Taper Bearing Cup Outer Diameter=3.265" Length=0.75" Radius=0.031"}
Rear Wheel; Outer; Tapered Cup; (H/D Brakes)
$6.64 $0.00 $6.64

BCA Part # LM29710 {Taper Bearing Cup Outer Diameter=2.5625" Length=0.55" Radius=0.046"}
Front Wheel; Inner; Tapered Cup; (Drum Brakes); (L/D Brakes); (RWD)
$6.86 $0.00 $6.86

BCA Part # A3 {Cone Length=0.55" Bore=0.8437" Outer Diameter=1.9687" Width=0.69 StoundOut=0.14" Cup Length=0.55" Cone Radius=1.046"}
Front Wheel; Outer; (Drum Brakes); (L/D Brakes); (RWD)
$7.18 $0.00 $7.18

BCA Part # 362A {Taper Bearing Cup Outer Diameter=3.5" Length=0.6501" Radius=0.046"}
Front Wheel; Inner; Tapered Cup; (Spicer 44-6FHD); (Spicer 44-6CFHD); (4WD)
$9.60 $0.00 $9.60

BCA Part # 15101 {Taper Bearing Cone Bore=1" Length=0.8125" Radius=0.031"}
Front Wheel; Outer; Tapered Cone; (Disc Brakes); (RWD)
Front Wheel; Outer; Tapered Cone; (Drum Brakes); (H/D Brakes); (RWD)
$9.86 $0.00 $9.86

BCA Part # 18720 {Taper Bearing Cup Outer Diameter=3.3464" Length=0.5313" Radius=0.062"}
Rear Wheel; Outer; Tapered Cup; (Exc. H/D Brakes)
Rear Wheel; Inner; Tapered Cup; (H/D Brakes)
Rear Wheel; Inner; Tapered Cup; (Exc. H/D Brakes)
$10.53 $0.00 $10.53

BCA Part # A35 {Cone Length=0.58" Bore=1.625" Outer Diameter=2.891" Width=0.77 StoundOut=0.19" Cup Length=0.58" Cone Radius=1.14"}
Front Wheel; Inner; (Disc Brakes); (RWD)
Front Wheel; Outer; (Spicer 44-6FHD); (Spicer 44-6CFHD); (4WD)
Front Wheel; Inner; (Drum Brakes); (H/D Brakes); (RWD)
Front Wheel; Outer; (Spicer 44-6CF); (4WD)
Front Wheel; Outer; (Spicer 44-6F); (4WD)
$11.38 $0.00 $11.38

BCA Part # A37 {Cone Length=0.5937" Bore=1.7812" Outer Diameter=3.0625" Width=0.781 StoundOut=0.188" Cup Length=0.5937" Cone Radius=1.14"}
Front Wheel; Inner; (Spicer 44-6F); (4WD)
Front Wheel; Inner; (Spicer 44-6CF); (4WD)
$12.64 $0.00 $12.64

BCA Part # LM29748 {Taper Bearing Cone Bore=1.5" Length=0.72" Radius=0"}
Front Wheel; Inner; Tapered Cone; (Drum Brakes); (L/D Brakes); (RWD)
$13.04 $0.00 $13.04

BCA Part # 368A {Taper Bearing Cone Bore=2" Length=0.875" Radius=0.14"}
Front Wheel; Inner; Tapered Cone; (Spicer 44-6FHD); (Spicer 44-6CFHD); (4WD)
$17.12 $0.00 $17.12

BCA Part # 18790 {Taper Bearing Cone Bore=2" Length=0.6875" Radius=0.14"}
Rear Wheel; Inner; Tapered Cone; (H/D Brakes)
Rear Wheel; Inner; Tapered Cone; (Exc. H/D Brakes)
$17.46 $0.00 $17.46

BCA Part # 18780 {Taper Bearing Cone Bore=1.8125" Length=0.6875" Radius=0.093"}
Rear Wheel; Outer; Tapered Cone; (Exc. H/D Brakes)
$25.89 $0.00 $25.89

ACDELCO Part # 387A {#09441046}
CONE,RR WHL BRG INR DANA/SPICER 60, 61, 70 AXLES; CONE; 2 WHEEL DRIVE
CONE,RR WHL BRG INR DANA/SPICER 60, 61, 70 AXLES; CONE; 4 WHEEL DRIVE
**Non-stock item--shipping delayed up to 12 business days**
$32.99 $0.00 $32.99

i couldnt find any timken part numbers but maybe you can crossreference the BCA #'s

i kinda wish i had already swapped in the 79 F350 3.55 geared rear axle i'd let you have the parts you need off the 68 rear... :doh:

i doubt your willing to wait for me to get off my butt and do it :lol:

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Yeah, that hub lost the battle against the sledge. Note to self: Don't ever do that again!

Wes, thanks for the info. That is helplful. I hope you were able to cut and paste. That's a lot of typing!!

Sharkdance, I only need the one hub. I already got a replacement drum so just the hub please. Sounds good. I'll send $$.

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mnyman wrote:Yeah, that hub lost the battle against the sledge. Note to self: Don't ever do that again!
......
Mark
removing it from the axle or trying to remove the studs so you could replace the drum?

i usually do very well with my 32oz ballpeen hammer and a couple of 4x4's and an old D60 centerpin when reinstalling them

i mainly use my sledghammer for bodywork :lol:
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The last time I ended up with something that looked that bad was when I tried to to replace 302 headgaskets after the miller family came over and completely missed one of the headbolts. Broke a head in half prying it off the block! Sh*t happens.

Not sure how much beating that hub took, but if you REALLY wailed on that sucker, you may want to closely inspect the spindle to make sure it didn't deform. I've yet to see a dana axle bend a rear spindle, but several buddies have bent 14 bolt spindles.
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Good advice. I'll have to look close at the spindle. I don't think it's bent but it did take a licking.
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mnyman,

Bad news.
I finally took those hubs apart and closely compared them to your pix again.
Looks like mine are more like the wrong one you already have. :(
Still, if theres any way you can make one of mine work Ill gladly ship one out to you for the price of freight.
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I just ran a quick search on www.car-part.com for a 66-69 F250 hub. 4 pages of results and in some of the brief descriptions it even appeared
some of the places knew what they were talking about. Remember the Ser# split is F30,001 (Before) so if you find a place with a 69 ask questions and get measurements etc.... Good luck
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For all this headache it sure seams like just replacing the whole axle would be easiest. ANY dana 60 from '72 or earlier will bolt in and even the 73-77 F-250 4x4 axle will work with some pad shims. $100 on craigslist around these parts any day of the week.
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Yeah, it would be easier to just put a new rear end in but I'm trying to keep as much original as possible. Thanks again 4x4x4crewcab for your interest and help with my project. I hope I'll be as helpful some day.
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4x4x4crewcab,

I just checked the info on my VIN. My production or consecutive unit number is D27366. I checked that number against the info posted on fordification's page "Decoding 1968 VIN Data Plate" and it appears to make sense. The truck was produced in Michigan in May 1968. That page shows trucks manufactured in May 1968 in Michigan had a number between D26,000 and D39,999. How does this relate to your research that seems to indicate that the split number was F30,000 or F70,000? I'm going to check out the link to that on-line part store you mentioned. I needed to get the VIN information to make sure I knew what I was looking for.

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How does this relate to your research that seems to indicate that the split number was F30,000 or F70,000?
The split is in 1969 after looking at the Fordification VIN page F30,001 would fall into June 1969 production. Stay under that and then start asking the other related question. The VIN page doesn't show 1969 trucks
even getting to the F70,001 and the 70's started with G's
Good luck to you. You may also take the correct new hub part number and start calling the obsolete parts dealers. Some of them do not list there inventory on the locator. This website has a list of some dealers to call. Check the links or vendors section on the home page I do believe.
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