Transmissions for dummies

[randyj68]

Hated to start a new thread, kinda sorta thought it would be easier. I found this site last year when i bought my project truck and its been a huge help. I have a 68 ranger, long bed, 390 3 speed truck. Recently sold tbe 390 and 3 speed tranny with hopes of going to a 302 5 speed. I have always researched and asked for input to avoid spendkng a lot of time and money for something that wont work. So Im asking is what's the best, most economical way to go and what's the best donor vehicle to look for. My heart was set
a 5 speed, dont matter if its a hydraulics or manuals set up, curious what all i need to make it happen. I found a 91 302 from a Thunderbird, has gt40 heads, ford racing e303 cam, 1.6 roller rockers, torker II intake, holley 6&0, Mallory unilite distributor, shorty headers ect. Id love to find out what vehicle i need to find in a junkyard or wrecked that i can pull what i need off of and bolt on to my motor. I know ill need a crossmember to mount the tranny and probably driveshaft modification. As always thanks for any and all information

[eggman918]

Read this first http://www.fordification.com/tech/M5R2_5spd-swap.htm
If you go this rout late '80s early '90s F150s with 5.0s are the donor truck,easy to find in the boneyards

[randyj68]

I found a 5 speed out of an 01 Mustang GT, was wrecked, the boy bought it with intentions of fixing it, couldnt get the title, pulled the motor and tranny, some other stuff and scrapped the rest. This a goid set up to bolt to my 302?

[ultraranger]

I found a 5 speed out of an 01 Mustang GT, was wrecked, the boy bought it with intentions of fixing it, couldnt get the title, pulled the motor and tranny, some other stuff and scrapped the rest. This a goid set up to bolt to my 302?

All V-8 Mustangs from 1996 to the present had 4.6L Mod engines. The 5-speed manual transmission for an '01 GT would be a Tremec 3650. It does not have a removeable bellhousing and it does not bolt to 302/5.0L 'Windsor' block pattern.

If you are going to run a 5.0L Mustang 5-speed manual transmission, you need to find one from a 1990-1993 5.0L Fox Mustang. The 1994/1995 SN95 V-8 Mustang T-5's would also work but input shafts are longer and bell housings are deeper than 1993-earlier T-5's.

[ultraranger]

Doh! Double posted.

[randyj68]

My luck, find a tranny in my small budget and it won't work

[ultraranger]

My luck, find a tranny in my small budget and it won't work

You could contact my buddy Glen Buzek to see if you might could work out some sort of trade/boot of the Tremec 3650 for a T-5. ...it doesn't cost anything to ask.

http://rosehillperformanceparts.com/

[randyj68]

Found a 98 3.8 Mustang in the boneyard with a 5 speed in it, luckily got an awesome deal in everything i should need to get everything in my 68, I think! Couple of questions. My 91 302 has a 50 ounce balancer, will the flywheel out of the Mustang be ok to use? The clutch in the 98 is cable controlled, will my z bar set up work ok or will the fork out of ny old 3 speed work? ? I know going into this conversion yhat ill have a driveshaft issue....open to any idea's, and as always THANKS for any and all input!

[zoomer]

How about an 80s mustang 4speed RF-D8ZR-7222AA. Anyone know about this?

[ultraranger]

Found a 98 3.8 Mustang in the boneyard with a 5 speed in it, luckily got an awesome deal in everything i should need to get everything in my 68, I think! Couple of questions. My 91 302 has a 50 ounce balancer, will the flywheel out of the Mustang be ok to use? The clutch in the 98 is cable controlled, will my z bar set up work ok or will the fork out of ny old 3 speed work? ? I know going into this conversion yhat ill have a driveshaft issue....open to any idea's, and as always THANKS for any and all input!

You will need a flywheel for a 5.0L engine.

The '91 5.0L block will not have a threaded hole on the drivers side, rear of the block, for a bell crank pivot pin. You will either have to get, or fabricate, a bracket that will bolt to two of the bell housing bolts and then wraps back around to point the pivot pin 90-degrees, outward, from the bell housing. --IF you are going to run a mechanical clutch linkage.

The old Top-Loader 3-speed clutch fork is not the same as the T-5s clutch fork. You will have to have one specific to the T-5.

[randyj68]

Ive looked into sone 4 speed trannys and 3 speed overdrive tranny's with little success and can't make myself stray from my hopes of having a 302-5speed set up
Im getting everything transmission related off the Mustang, just wondering if the t5 fork might work with the original clutch set up or what would be the nost economical way to go with the cllutchabd mounts and driveshaft...

[ultraranger]

In giving this a little more thought, a mechanical clutch linkage won't work for a later model transmission, --like the manual 5 speed from an '01 Mustang.

The mechanical linkage of an old Ford truck, Mustang, ect. PUSHES the clutch fork rearward when the clutch pedal is pushed in. On the later model manual transmissions, the clutch fork is PULLED forward when the clutch pedal is pushed in.

This means you would either have to use a cable or hydraulics to actuate the clutch fork.

I'm not certain if the clutch cable from the '01 Mustang (SN95 platform) will (or won't) work in an F100 application (??). I do know the clutch cables from the SN95 Mustangs (1994-2004) are longer than the clutch cables from the previous years Fox Mustangs.

In the following link is a quadrant that's welded to the very top of the clutch pedal in a vintage Mustang to operate a cable clutch, when installing a T-5 in an early Mustang. I don't know anyone that's used it in an early F100 application but it's possible it MAY work.

The guy that makes them is named, Steve Wilkes. He goes by the name, 'Mustang Steve.'

http://www.mustangsteve.com/cable.html

[randyj68]

I got the transmission from a 98 Mustang 3.8, i assume it works the same as the 01 you referred to?, either way I understand what your saying, didn'think of it that way and appreciate the response, hoping to get this all together and back on the road very soon!

[ultraranger]

I got the transmission from a 98 Mustang 3.8, I assume it works the same as the '01 referred to?, either way u understand what you're saying, didn't think of it that way and appreciate the response. Hoping to get this all together and back on the road very soon!

Yep, 1994-2004 Mustang (SN95 platform) manual transmission cable actuation works the same whether it's a 3.8L Mustang or a 5.0L V-8 ('94/'95) or 4.6L V-8 ('96-'04). They are all pull-type in they way they operate.