NP 435 blues -2 questions

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I noticed that my NP435 has been a little noiser then usual so I checked an sure enough as soon as I pulled the fill plug oil started flowing ..
So I decided that it might be time to change the oil .
I found that buying a 5 gallon bucket of 80/90 gear oil and a hand pump that mounts into the top makes changing the oil a lot easyer .
I was kind of shocked to see what looked like glitter in the oil as the tranny was draining .
As far as I can tell the tranny is in good shape (it does not pop out of gear when I excellerate) and is only noisy in 3rd (third gear)
I was wondering if anyone knows what the problem might be or how long do I have before the tranny goes . I found this problem about 3 weeks ago and since then I have dumped the gear lube again, which seems to have helped as the tranny is pretty quiet - for the time being .
I plan on buying a rebuilt tranny from Jeffs Bronco Graveyard and I was wondering if anyone as had any experence with buying any axles/trannys/transfercases from JBG?
Thanks for your time , Jon
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Thats sad to here a tranny going. She is probaly tired. When mine went it was vibrating real bad.

I have a NP435 manual that I copied to a PDF file. I am not sure if Keith has had time to post it here yet. I could burn a CD copy and send it to you if needed.

How much does Jeffs Bronco Graveyard charge. I have done quit a bit of business with them a couple years ago. They are pretty cool.

Also check out Novak adaptors. http://www.novak-adapt.com/ They have kits there also.
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Yep, that PDF file of the rebuild manual has been posted, to the Ford Manual Transmission ID Guide and to the Downloads pages.
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Cool. Thanks Keith.
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Although I am sure I can rebuild the tranny I just do not have a place to rebuild it .
Jeff's bronco graveyard is asking $695.00 +truck Freight I think that is a pretty good price for a rebuilt tranny with a 3 month warrentee..
My tranny is starting to vibrate , I think I have a few more months if I go easy and change the oil every 2-3 weeks .
Thanks guys!

Oh ya the best part about JBG is that they dont want your tranny as a core so I can keep my old tranny and in the future rebuild it ...
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That isn't to bad of a price to buy a rebuilt without a core. I thought you were going to rebuild it, so nevermind on the Novak website.
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I'm about to change my fluids tomorrow. Does the tranny and xfer case both use 80-90? Is it regular old stuff or should I use synthetic? or even ATF considering my cold temp. extremes and generally short trips (maybe 10 miles a day).


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Both use 50 weight motor oil.

I wouldn't wast my money on synthetic oil if the tranny is fixin to die.
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Thanks. How many quarts should I buy? Sorry, I don't have any manuals on Big Brown Bear. I have an old Chltons engine book tho :D I remember dad using it when I was knee high to a grasshopper.



My tranny seems ok, I just want to get the fluids changed and check for shavings etc. while I decide on whether to upgrade to an auto witha floor shift or a 5 speed from a mid-late 80's truck.
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6.5 pints for the tranny and for the T-case it doesn't say. I would imagine around 5-6 pints. It also notes that it is SAE 50 for above 10 degrees F or SAE 30 for below 10 degrees F.
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You rock!! Thanks my friend. We range from -30 (not counting the wind) to 90 above
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I like that kind of weather. You get all four seasons there. We get two seasons. 40 degrees, rain and lots of it and some sun for the month of summer.
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I'm guessing I should run 30 weight then?


I do love having all 4 seasons... but that's why I have 4 sons and started getting a stable of dirt bikes (CRF 230 for me and a crf 50 to teach the kids so far) and of course the hunting and camping. Fords sure look good in God's country.
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Man, if you follow the recomendations you are going to be changing the oil twice a year. I guess that ain't to bad considering you probably change the oil in the crankcase more often (not knowing how many miles you drive it). I would be more inclinded to leave 50 weight in it all year around, but thats me. I am also known for stripping out bolts in aluminum from over doing it. :roll:
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Are ya thinking 30 weaight for winter and 50 for summer? What about when towing a small pop trailer? It's my daily driver and hunting and camping rig.
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