decoding trans numbers

[thebannister8]

hi all...i looked at the plate on my trans to try and identify if it's a t85, t87..etc..it didn't say that, but it had numbers and letters....i went to the trans i.d. section here and got info from the first line on the plate and i got this info ( RAN-G1 240-1V F100/250 131” WB (Fixed Yoke) )....perhaps the second line can give me the info i need...the page is under construction, so i was wondering if anyone knows how to read the second line...the plate says this

ran g 1
k037891

i need the rear seal and need the trans type for the right one

thanks

[fordman]

ran means it is a light duty 6 cyl transmission. those are almost the same numbers my trans had on it out of the 69 i parted out.

[thebannister8]

when they bring up the parts screen at the auto stores i see them click 6 cyc 240, but it still goes on to list 4 types...

[fordman]

type in the numbers into your browser and see what it comes up with. that should tell you more about it. what all does the parts store say it could be or what is in there list? tell them its a 3.03. it's not a t85.

[mmerlinn]

hi all...i looked at the plate on my trans to try and identify if it's a t85, t87..etc..it didn't say that, but it had numbers and letters....i went to the trans i.d. section here and got info from the first line on the plate and i got this info ( RAN-G1 240-1V F100/250 131” WB (Fixed Yoke) )....perhaps the second line can give me the info i need...the page is under construction, so i was wondering if anyone knows how to read the second line...the plate says this

ran g 1
k037891

i need the rear seal and need the trans type for the right one

thanks

The second line is generally meaningless for identification. Typically includes build date and serial number. However the second line you posted just does not make any sense to me. It appears that either some is missing or the spacing between the numbers is incorrect.

[thebannister8]

i typed them into my browser and i don't find anything....two parts stores pull up screens that list these four as an option for 6 cyc , 240: t89, tremec, t87 or t85 ..thanks

heres the link to the listing of 4 different seals ( all say 3 speed manual )

http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductList ... Shaft+Seal

[fordman]

did you try www.rockauto.com thier shipping is hihg but they sometimes know better than the other parts stores. there is also www.napaonline.com

[thebannister8]

according to the folks at drivetrain.com... the RAN indicates the 3 speed trans is a tremec...other info on the net suggested this, but it wasn't certain.....i wonder if anyone with a 3 speed trans has seen the top line of the i.d. plate begin with borg warner, bg, t85, t87, t89 or anything other than RAN to indicate a borg warner trans...

[fordman]

check ou thtis site it may help you it may not. it is all i could find out when i was looking to get rid of one of those transmissions. http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/3speedidchart.htm

[thebannister8]

all those sites are helpful ...thanks

[FORDification]

The transmission model type isn't a part of the ID tag, it's cast into the side of the transmission case itself.

AFAIK all American Ford 3-speed transmissions are Borg-Warner. The Tremac is a 5-spd used in later trucks. I think the reason it's included in that list is that Tremac did manufacture some transmissions for the Mexican Ford trucks.

[thebannister8]

how about the codes:

J C5APB 7AOLO-B
DIF 000

[fordman]

here is what i get without looking anything up. it is a 1965 casting at the dearborn industry foundry. i get nohting when i search the internet with the c5 set of numbers

[mmerlinn]

The transmission model type isn't a part of the ID tag, it's cast into the side of the transmission case itself.

AFAIK all American Ford 3-speed transmissions are Borg-Warner. The Tremac is a 5-spd used in later trucks. I think the reason it's included in that list is that Tremac did manufacture some transmissions for the Mexican Ford trucks.

On the Tremec RAN, RAT transmissions, the type is on the tag. The Borg Warner T series has no tag, but the case casting numbers will identify it.

Ford used 3 and 4 speed Tremec transmissions in a lot of vehicles. Some of the later ones even have "Tremec" on the case.

how about the codes:

J C5APB 7AOLO-B
DIF 000

The red part is impossible. If it is "C5AR 7A040 B" as I suspect, then all you have is a casting number off of the tail, which is pretty much useless in identifying the transmission.

[thebannister8]

thanks for the reply....the 7AOLO-B is off the tail peice the J C5APB
DIF 000
are located around the linkage.... i'll double check my numbers to be sure..

from the research i've gathered the RAB/RAN/RAT series of transmissions were initally designed by borg warner but produced under the tremec brand...in 1965 production of this model was limited to two american factories and the mexican factory primarily for developmental and import/export regulation reasons, yet widely available in north american cars and trucks beginning in 1965...in 1968 tremec of mexico became the major supplier of this series.

what's intersting to me is that my chilton manual makes a distinction between the ford 3.03 trans and the t-series...