Horn Needs to Blow - Horn Ring Troubles

[pincheweddo]

I am having an issue with the horn and I ain't quite sure what's going on. According to the parts schematic(s), it looks to be put together right. If I take the horn ring off it and ground the button it blows with the ring off. So, here are my questions:

1. How does it complete the connection?
2. The schematics that I have indicate there isn't a spring under the ring. I seem to remember there being one 25 years ago.
3. The plastic retainer appears to gets extremely damaged when I install it. Do I need to buy a dozen of these?
4. Does any one have some good photo details of the horn assembly at the steering wheel?

[68RGR]

Check out this thread from years ago:

http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... =8&t=38379

Is this drawing any better than the one you have?

http://cdnll.dennis-carpenter.com/image ... 09-A_1.jpg

Hopefully, they will help.

Good luck,

Bill

[tac]

I could be wrong and usually am, but I think that the ground for the 67 column is not in the harness and needs a strap around rag joint to get the horn to work.

[pincheweddo]

Check out this thread from years ago:

http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... =8&t=38379

Is this drawing any better than the one you have?

http://cdnll.dennis-carpenter.com/image ... 09-A_1.jpg

Hopefully, they will help.

Good luck,

Bill

Good stuff and thanks! On the thread, I have all of it assembled correctly. Still no honky.

The diagram is much better and confirms my proper assembly.

[pincheweddo]

I could be wrong and usually am, but I think that the ground for the 67 column is not in the harness and needs a strap around rag joint to get the horn to work.

Still thinking about this one. If I connect the copper springy thingy to the steering shaft nut, we have noise. Not sure if I put the metal thingies back in the joint. (that isn't a reference to smoking pot)

[68RGR]

In that old thread, one poster emphasized the need to have shiny metal in the contact areas. You might want to check those areas just in case you haven't done so. One thing that might test that idea is to push the horn ring/button down while you rock the wheel back and forth slightly. The friction might help to remove any rust or corrosion that is preventing contact. With low voltages it doesn't take much dirt, grime, rust, etc to "insulate" stuff and keep it from working correctly.

[tac]

I could be wrong and usually am, but I think that the ground for the 67 column is not in the harness and needs a strap around rag joint to get the horn to work.

Still thinking about this one. If I connect the copper springy thingy to the steering shaft nut, we have noise. Not sure if I put the metal thingies back in the joint. (that isn't a reference to smoking pot)

I have to go off memory on this one, but I don't remember any copper spring attached to the shaft nut. Isn't there just a spring to hold the horn button off the shaft and the brush goes through a hole and connects to the contact plate under the steering wheel? If that is what is making noise maybe the brush is upside down. I think big end of the brush should touche the plate.

[pincheweddo]

I could be wrong and usually am, but I think that the ground for the 67 column is not in the harness and needs a strap around rag joint to get the horn to work.

Still thinking about this one. If I connect the copper springy thingy to the steering shaft nut, we have noise. Not sure if I put the metal thingies back in the joint. (that isn't a reference to smoking pot)

I have to go off memory on this one, but I don't remember any copper spring attached to the shaft nut. Isn't there just a spring to hold the horn button off the shaft and the brush goes through a hole and connects to the contact plate under the steering wheel? If that is what is making noise maybe the brush is upside down. I think big end of the brush should touche the plate.

There are 2 copper contacts. One is in the blinker switch, one in the steering wheel. When the horn cover is off, if I use a screw driver to make the connection the horn honks. If I put the horn cover on (the chrome center piece) and push it, nothing happens. So I am trying to understand, what completes the circuit?

[tac]

Don't you love working on horns, makes everyone around you jumpy When you use the screw driver are you connecting between the brush and the plate on top of the steering wheel or another ground? How i think it works is the brush connects the metal in the horn button and completes the circuit when the button is pushed against the metal plate or top of the shaft. First check to see if that plate is connected to ground. Then see if the brush is making contact to the button or if the button is making connection to ground when pushed. If the outside of the button is not isolated from the underside you may be able to check this with a voltmeter or test light on the horn button when installed. Should be 12 volts normally and grounded when pressed.

[pincheweddo]

The Horn Honks now! But more than I want it to, which is all the time. Below are the picture of the assembly of the horn ring to the steering wheel. As soon as I attach it, the horn blows and doesn't quit. I remember 25 years ago there being a spring in between the 2, or I am I wrong?

[sargentrs]

Good pics in Robroy's thread http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... a&start=15

[pincheweddo]

Damit!!! I knew there was a spring under there! I can't seem to find one in the catalogs and the stupid diagrams don't show the spring. Any clues where to find this spring?

[68RGR]

Would LMC part number 40-3214 work? It's item 4 in the drawing here:

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/fb/full.aspx?Page=52

Looks like it was used from 1964 to 1970.

[pincheweddo]

Would LMC part number 40-3214 work? It's item 4 in the drawing here:

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/fb/full.aspx?Page=52

Looks like it was used from 1964 to 1970.

Thanks! I found it last night after posting.