When I first bought my truck ('67 F100) it was running points and original coil. I replaced the points with electronic and the coil with a Pertronix flame-thrower. Upon wiring the new coil which requires 12 volts, I noticed that the White-Red stripe was plugged into the Red-Green stripe that was then connected to the Coil (which means the white-red strip was receiving resisted voltage). So for the new coil, I ditched the Red-Green stripe for a bypass that provided a full 12v to the coil. I left the White-Red stripe unplugged (which runs to the kickdown). All was well, then I decided to see if I could get my kickdown to work again. So, checking out the wiring diagrams for the Overdrive, I noticed that indeed that White-Red stripe is supposed to go to the coil.
I didn't notice it was supposed to be the negative side of the coil until later, so I attached to positive side. My next thought was "hey, this used to be resisted and now it's going to be a full 12v, I wonder if that matters" and did it anyway.
So, White-Red stripe wire has been attached directly to the positive side of the coil and I take a test drive. Engage OD successfully then floor it to see if the kickdown is working... hmm, doesn't seem to work, oh well, home I go.... on the way home, try to engage OD, no bueno! Get back home, check the fuse, it's fine, no blown fuse! Ugh. Since the White-Red stripe goes to the kickdown and the kickdown feeds to the Solenoid (which is 12v, says so right on the can), did I overcook the kickdown or the solenoid? Could this all be coincidence??
I've spent countless hours reading the article on this site as well as the Borg Warmer service manual. I spent several hours last night, checking voltage to the best of my abilities. What I do find is 12v at the relay and 12v on the connector for the White-Red stripe (can't remember if I checked the white wire, which feeds the governor) that goes into the kickdown switch but I do not have 12v under the truck at the White wire or the Blue-orange stripe and based on what I read I should... is this correct? Both the governor and the solenoid should be getting 12v. So doesn't that indicate that the kickdown isn't passing down the voltage? I get like a reading of 1.xxxxx I did check for continuity of the white and the blue-orange stripe wires from the kickdown plug to under the truck, that all tested fine.
Thanks guys for any guidance and help you can offer!
p.s., I grounded the relay and it definitely clicked, although I can't hear if the solenoid is clicking too (which as I understand it should), not sure what that sounds like but the relay is pretty loud. I also took the relay apart and sanded the contacts to clean them up. I tried grounding the governor but not sure I'm doing that right, probably not. I tried grounding it at the two little points on the cover that the wire connects at. Am I supposed to actually touch bare cable (the white wire that supposed to carry 12v) and ground it?
p.p.s I also cleaned the contacts on the kickdown and the relay, although seems weird that it would happen so suddenly if that were the problem.
Amy
did I just cook my OD solenoid?
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did I just cook my OD solenoid?
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Re: did I just cook my OD solenoid?
Ooops, I misread the post.
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Re: did I just cook my OD solenoid?
I have the same transmission. There is a good link here on the site to work off. Give that a shot and that may help. In addition sometimes the solenoid does not engage the rod for the overdrive. worst case scenario there are reproduction solenoids out there
http://www.fordification.com/tech/overdrive.htm
http://www.fordification.com/tech/overdrive.htm
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69 Ford F100 Ranger 390 3spd with overdrive
63 Chevy Impala 327 with 4spd. In the family since brand new. Over 280,00 miles
69 Ford F100 Ranger 390 3spd with overdrive
63 Chevy Impala 327 with 4spd. In the family since brand new. Over 280,00 miles
- amycyclenut
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Re: did I just cook my OD solenoid?
So between the doc on this site and the Overdrive manual, and a little luck, I narrowed the issue down to the kickdown switch and/or rubber connector. Kickdown was definite issue and connector was questionable. Bought a new kickdown and put terminals on each wire and SUCCESS!
1967 F100 352 3spd w/OD