M5R2 or ZF?
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Re: M5R2 or ZF?
ok thats what i figured...well ill add it to the list ill either swap the tailshaft case or figure something else out. Thanks for the info, truck been on the back burner the past few days because of the last week of school for the semester Im ready for break!
Mine - 1969 Ford F100 ShortBox
Original: 360, T18, Dana 60, Custom Cab, Red
Now: 302, M5R2, Front Disc, Black Leather Interior, Grabber Blue
Dads - 1969 F100 Stepside
Original: 390, c6, Custom Cab, White
Plans: Drive it and....?
Chandler
Original: 360, T18, Dana 60, Custom Cab, Red
Now: 302, M5R2, Front Disc, Black Leather Interior, Grabber Blue
Dads - 1969 F100 Stepside
Original: 390, c6, Custom Cab, White
Plans: Drive it and....?
Chandler
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Re: M5R2 or ZF?
SD Farm Kid,
Please do post photos of your M5R2 install. We're wanting to do the same thing and frankly, it's intimidating when we've never done anything like this before. Our truck is a '70 F100 LWB with a 302 and three speed column shift. It has a 3.50 axle and we wonder if it will be about right for highway driving with the M5R2 overdrive 5th gear.
Good luck on your project - sounds like you're capable and have a plan.
Wilma / Colorado
Please do post photos of your M5R2 install. We're wanting to do the same thing and frankly, it's intimidating when we've never done anything like this before. Our truck is a '70 F100 LWB with a 302 and three speed column shift. It has a 3.50 axle and we wonder if it will be about right for highway driving with the M5R2 overdrive 5th gear.
Good luck on your project - sounds like you're capable and have a plan.
Wilma / Colorado
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Re: M5R2 or ZF?
I have a M5R2 in my F-250 4x4 with the cummins 4BT and it runs about 1900 rpm @ 65 mph with 31.5" tires which might be a bit low for a 302 but with smaller tires you will get more rpm's.
here is a link to a good gear calculator http://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html you can run any combo with it,hope this helps
Steve.
here is a link to a good gear calculator http://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html you can run any combo with it,hope this helps
Steve.
Steve
The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
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The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
"Beauty is only skin deep....Ugly is to the bone"
It is more important to understand what you don't know than what you do know,because then you can start to learn..???
"you must deal with the attaboys and the ass chewing s with your head up and looking them in the eyes" T.J.E. aka My Dad
There are only three types of people wolves, sheepdogs, and sheep. What are you?
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Re: M5R2 or ZF?
Any m5r2 factory equipped truck I have checked the rear axle tag on has had 3.55 gears so I say roll with it
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Re: M5R2 or ZF?
Wilma-Colorado: I will definetly post pictures of my install. I know what you are feeling before last fall id done very little mechanical work in my life and kinda felt overwhelmed by it, but i just dived right into the middle of it, and have thoroughly enjoyed doing and have learned alot, this site has been a great help in that success though.
Progress Report: I have the flyweel and pressure plate installed, but i tore my pedal assembly apart last night and the bushings were shot a loooong time ago. One of the two metal bushings was half gone and wore a groove a quarter way into the shaft. So my dads gonna get some bearings 2morrow and do my own version of mustang steves mod.Then ill get the pedals mounted again, mount the master cylinder, and get it all buttoned up, so hopefully ill have it done before christmas....hopefully
Ive also used some of them calculators but have since made an excel spreadsheet to do them calculations. I have 3.54s and with a .8 overdrive and 29 inch tire ill be turning 2133 rpms at 65 mph, but ive yet to set that in stone. If you have any others you want me to put in it it just let me know
Thanks everybody for the help!
Progress Report: I have the flyweel and pressure plate installed, but i tore my pedal assembly apart last night and the bushings were shot a loooong time ago. One of the two metal bushings was half gone and wore a groove a quarter way into the shaft. So my dads gonna get some bearings 2morrow and do my own version of mustang steves mod.Then ill get the pedals mounted again, mount the master cylinder, and get it all buttoned up, so hopefully ill have it done before christmas....hopefully
Ive also used some of them calculators but have since made an excel spreadsheet to do them calculations. I have 3.54s and with a .8 overdrive and 29 inch tire ill be turning 2133 rpms at 65 mph, but ive yet to set that in stone. If you have any others you want me to put in it it just let me know
Thanks everybody for the help!
Mine - 1969 Ford F100 ShortBox
Original: 360, T18, Dana 60, Custom Cab, Red
Now: 302, M5R2, Front Disc, Black Leather Interior, Grabber Blue
Dads - 1969 F100 Stepside
Original: 390, c6, Custom Cab, White
Plans: Drive it and....?
Chandler
Original: 360, T18, Dana 60, Custom Cab, Red
Now: 302, M5R2, Front Disc, Black Leather Interior, Grabber Blue
Dads - 1969 F100 Stepside
Original: 390, c6, Custom Cab, White
Plans: Drive it and....?
Chandler
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Re: M5R2 or ZF?
1st gear will be pretty short with 3.55's and 29" tires with the Mazda. 3.25 or 3.00's would probably feel better, but then you may lose the functionality of overdrive with a carb small V8.
See how it goes when you get her back on the road then switch gears if needed.
See how it goes when you get her back on the road then switch gears if needed.
1970 F-250 4x4 original Willock swivel frame chassis '93 5.9 Cummins/Getrag/NP205/HP60/D70