I have three carriers, one of which will go into my 71 4x4 1/2 ton
I am using a 5 lug Dana 60 rear and may decide to go a different gear that I originally planned. If I can I want to use the Powerlock as its much stronger, then sell the Trac lock, but I cant really do much with either not knowing what they really fit.
From the picture below, I have a Powerlock 4 pinion posi, a Traclock 2 pinion posi, and an open diff.
When sitting on the bench, all seem a little different in where the ring gear sits. Danas use different carriers based on gear ratio groups and these parts have been mixed up under my bench since the early 80's, I have no idea what gear set was originally paired with the posi LOL
Does anyone know how to identify each carrier for its specific ratio, short of setting each one up to see how things line up?
Thanks in advance
Dana 60 posi carrier ID
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Nothing you see there can be considered to have ever been with another piece, consider it like a big shell game with 5-6 more R&P and carrier combos long gone over the years
This is a tiny bit of 20 yrs of stuff laying in the bench of an 8 bay garage and we moved twice BEFORE I moved away
Trying to find out casting numbers or dimension difference, its amazing, the Dana casting numbers are like secrets info or something LOL
This is a tiny bit of 20 yrs of stuff laying in the bench of an 8 bay garage and we moved twice BEFORE I moved away
Trying to find out casting numbers or dimension difference, its amazing, the Dana casting numbers are like secrets info or something LOL
71 F-100 SB 4x4, 461 FE, Edelbrock Pro-flo 4, 4 speed, 4 inch softride lift, all poly bushings, integral PS, most mods installed since the 80's
70 Mustang Sportsroof 489 FE, EFI, TKO-600 5 speed, 4.11s
Engine building by-appointment only--30+ years, specializing in strong street pump gas FEs
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re: Dana 60 posi carrier ID
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Try this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DANA-60- ... dZViewItem
I've got the CD here somewhere but can't find it.
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Try this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DANA-60- ... dZViewItem
I've got the CD here somewhere but can't find it.
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re: Dana 60 posi carrier ID
I would look on Pirate4x4.com ... Mr. N seems to have a bunch of good stuff....
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re: Dana 60 posi carrier ID
I've got a Power Lock center that doesn't look like yours.
Mine looks like a giant castle nut. Are you sure your Power Lock unit is for our vintage rear diffs?
If i remember right, the spline counts on the axles changed in '73. At least they did for Dana 70's. (Thats why its been so hard for me to find parts)
Most of the Power Lock units i did find were the newer models with the newer spline count.
You may already know this, i May be babbling for no good reason. If so....
Nevermind.
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Mine looks like a giant castle nut. Are you sure your Power Lock unit is for our vintage rear diffs?
If i remember right, the spline counts on the axles changed in '73. At least they did for Dana 70's. (Thats why its been so hard for me to find parts)
Most of the Power Lock units i did find were the newer models with the newer spline count.
You may already know this, i May be babbling for no good reason. If so....
Nevermind.
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You can sell trac-loks? I thought they were good for a few cents in scrap or an emergency use item if you toast a spider in an open diff.
There's only one carrier brake for the dana 60. If you put them side by side the ones that would position the ring gear further from the pinion are for 3.30 to 4.10's. The closer carriers fit 4.56 (and 4.10 with skinny gears) to 7.XX whatever.
In 73 Most Ford 2wd's got 30 spline axles. The 4x4's stayed with 16 spliners through 77 depending on where the truck was made.
Most Ford dana 60 powerlocks are from 1969 and earlier trucks. Ford went to the trac-o-crapper in 70 as the standard LS.
The semi-floater 60's were all 30 spline from 56 through 72.
There's only one carrier brake for the dana 60. If you put them side by side the ones that would position the ring gear further from the pinion are for 3.30 to 4.10's. The closer carriers fit 4.56 (and 4.10 with skinny gears) to 7.XX whatever.
In 73 Most Ford 2wd's got 30 spline axles. The 4x4's stayed with 16 spliners through 77 depending on where the truck was made.
Most Ford dana 60 powerlocks are from 1969 and earlier trucks. Ford went to the trac-o-crapper in 70 as the standard LS.
The semi-floater 60's were all 30 spline from 56 through 72.
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What happened to the pic? I know it's an older thread but not that old!!!
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re: Dana 60 posi carrier ID
If you decide to use the Power-loc carrier in the 5 lug rearend. Make sure that there is a button on both sides in the center were the two axle slid in. They keep the axles from floating back and forth. full floating axles do not have it. I don't have a pic but you will see it looking down into the center. If not then it will be a flat surface with maybe a hole through to the other side.
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