80's 5 speed OD behind 390 FE???
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80's 5 speed OD behind 390 FE???
Does anyone have any comments about putting a 5 speed OD manual trans from a late 80's pickup behind a FE 390??
The trans originally came behind a 6 cyl and my original thoughts were to put it behind my 6 cyl but am considering a 390 conversion. My understanding is that the T-18 that came stock behind my 300 I6 will work behind the 390 with proper bellhousing etc and I also know that the OD 5 spd will work behind my 300 I6 with proper bellhousing etc so I'm concluding that at a minimum the OD 5 spd will bolt up with the proper bellhousing etc.
My original thoughts were that the 300 I6 along with the OD 5 spd would be pretty decent package regarding fuel mileage. But I might also like a little more power etc.......
So my question is more about durability - will the OD 5 spd handle the 390 power/torque. I wouldn't be racing it or anything - mostly just normal driving with the occasional heavy foot to get off the stop light quick.........
Thanks for your input.....
The trans originally came behind a 6 cyl and my original thoughts were to put it behind my 6 cyl but am considering a 390 conversion. My understanding is that the T-18 that came stock behind my 300 I6 will work behind the 390 with proper bellhousing etc and I also know that the OD 5 spd will work behind my 300 I6 with proper bellhousing etc so I'm concluding that at a minimum the OD 5 spd will bolt up with the proper bellhousing etc.
My original thoughts were that the 300 I6 along with the OD 5 spd would be pretty decent package regarding fuel mileage. But I might also like a little more power etc.......
So my question is more about durability - will the OD 5 spd handle the 390 power/torque. I wouldn't be racing it or anything - mostly just normal driving with the occasional heavy foot to get off the stop light quick.........
Thanks for your input.....
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re: 80's 5 speed OD behind 390 FE???
I'm not sure - did they use more than one behind the I6s of the late 80s - I think its an '87?????
How do I tell the difference?
How do I tell the difference?
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re: 80's 5 speed OD behind 390 FE???
Help me understand the need for an adaptor.......
1. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe I've read on here before that the same T-18 trans was used behind the I6 and 390 in the bumpsides- you just have to have the correct bellhousing for each engine.
2. With the correct bellhousing, the 87 OD 5 spd trans and bellhousing will work behind the I-6 because that's what it was behind from the factory. (Assuming the 87 300 I6 is the same as the 60s I6!)
3. Essentially, that makes the 87 OD 5 spd interchangeable with the T-18 with the appropriate bellhousing.
4. So combining #1 and #3 above - the 80s 5 spd should work behind the FE with the proper FE bellhousing??
What am I missing or not considering that requires an adaptor??
Thanks for the help!!!
1. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe I've read on here before that the same T-18 trans was used behind the I6 and 390 in the bumpsides- you just have to have the correct bellhousing for each engine.
2. With the correct bellhousing, the 87 OD 5 spd trans and bellhousing will work behind the I-6 because that's what it was behind from the factory. (Assuming the 87 300 I6 is the same as the 60s I6!)
3. Essentially, that makes the 87 OD 5 spd interchangeable with the T-18 with the appropriate bellhousing.
4. So combining #1 and #3 above - the 80s 5 spd should work behind the FE with the proper FE bellhousing??
What am I missing or not considering that requires an adaptor??
Thanks for the help!!!
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If I remeber correctly the tranny you have has the bellhousing built into the unit, just like a C-6 automatic.
If that is the case then you need an adapter, since the FE has a different bolt pattern.
The reason the T-18 can fit many different engines is that you can change the bellhousing.
Now if your 87 OD has the removable bell housing then you should have no problem with it.
If that is the case then you need an adapter, since the FE has a different bolt pattern.
The reason the T-18 can fit many different engines is that you can change the bellhousing.
Now if your 87 OD has the removable bell housing then you should have no problem with it.
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re: 80's 5 speed OD behind 390 FE???
Oh -ok.
I guess I can't even answer that right now - my brother-in-law saved the trans/bellhousing etc out of a truck he junked and I haven't even looked at it yet. I assumed it was a separate bellhousing but couldn't say for sure.
Thanks for the input!!
I guess I can't even answer that right now - my brother-in-law saved the trans/bellhousing etc out of a truck he junked and I haven't even looked at it yet. I assumed it was a separate bellhousing but couldn't say for sure.
Thanks for the input!!
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No, you cannot put whatever ford 5 speed you're considering behind your 390 without some expensive adapting. Ford used two 5 speeds in the late 80's and early 90's. They used the M5R2 5 speed in F-150's, ford rangers, etc. This transmission is built by mazda. It's not really weak, but the better choice is the ZF 5 speed that ford used in thier F-250 to F-550 trucks. The ZF is very tough and will take anything a big block can dish out. Both transmissions have integral bellhousings and hydraulic clutches. You can easily adapt a hydraulic clutch to your bumpside, but these transmissions will only fit the 385 series bellhousing or the small block/six bell. You can put a dodge/chevy NV4500 5 speed behind an FE far easier than you could a ZF or M5R2.
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re: 80's 5 speed OD behind 390 FE???
Oh - OK.
I didn't realize that those had integral bellhousings - I've never heard of a manual trans with an integral bellhousing...
Thanks for the input!
I didn't realize that those had integral bellhousings - I've never heard of a manual trans with an integral bellhousing...
Thanks for the input!
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re: 80's 5 speed OD behind 390 FE???
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