80's 5 speed OD behind 390 FE???

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80's 5 speed OD behind 390 FE???

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Does anyone have any comments about putting a 5 speed OD manual trans from a late 80's pickup behind a FE 390??

The trans originally came behind a 6 cyl and my original thoughts were to put it behind my 6 cyl but am considering a 390 conversion. My understanding is that the T-18 that came stock behind my 300 I6 will work behind the 390 with proper bellhousing etc and I also know that the OD 5 spd will work behind my 300 I6 with proper bellhousing etc so I'm concluding that at a minimum the OD 5 spd will bolt up with the proper bellhousing etc.

My original thoughts were that the 300 I6 along with the OD 5 spd would be pretty decent package regarding fuel mileage. But I might also like a little more power etc.......

So my question is more about durability - will the OD 5 spd handle the 390 power/torque. I wouldn't be racing it or anything - mostly just normal driving with the occasional heavy foot to get off the stop light quick......... :-)

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What kind of 5 speed is it?

If it is a T-5 then no.
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I'm not sure - did they use more than one behind the I6s of the late 80s - I think its an '87?????

How do I tell the difference?
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T-5's came from the stangs.

I misread your first post.

You could probably put that transmission on your FE but you will need to buy an adapter.

I believe Advance Adapters makes one.
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Help me understand the need for an adaptor.......

1. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe I've read on here before that the same T-18 trans was used behind the I6 and 390 in the bumpsides- you just have to have the correct bellhousing for each engine.

2. With the correct bellhousing, the 87 OD 5 spd trans and bellhousing will work behind the I-6 because that's what it was behind from the factory. (Assuming the 87 300 I6 is the same as the 60s I6!)

3. Essentially, that makes the 87 OD 5 spd interchangeable with the T-18 with the appropriate bellhousing.

4. So combining #1 and #3 above - the 80s 5 spd should work behind the FE with the proper FE bellhousing??

What am I missing or not considering that requires an adaptor??

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If I remeber correctly the tranny you have has the bellhousing built into the unit, just like a C-6 automatic.

If that is the case then you need an adapter, since the FE has a different bolt pattern.

The reason the T-18 can fit many different engines is that you can change the bellhousing.


Now if your 87 OD has the removable bell housing then you should have no problem with it.
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Oh -ok.

I guess I can't even answer that right now - my brother-in-law saved the trans/bellhousing etc out of a truck he junked and I haven't even looked at it yet. I assumed it was a separate bellhousing but couldn't say for sure.

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No, you cannot put whatever ford 5 speed you're considering behind your 390 without some expensive adapting. Ford used two 5 speeds in the late 80's and early 90's. They used the M5R2 5 speed in F-150's, ford rangers, etc. This transmission is built by mazda. It's not really weak, but the better choice is the ZF 5 speed that ford used in thier F-250 to F-550 trucks. The ZF is very tough and will take anything a big block can dish out. Both transmissions have integral bellhousings and hydraulic clutches. You can easily adapt a hydraulic clutch to your bumpside, but these transmissions will only fit the 385 series bellhousing or the small block/six bell. You can put a dodge/chevy NV4500 5 speed behind an FE far easier than you could a ZF or M5R2.
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Oh - OK.

I didn't realize that those had integral bellhousings - I've never heard of a manual trans with an integral bellhousing...


Thanks for the input!
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The NV4500 is so popular for swaps because it is the only modern manual transmission that does not have an integral bell. That and it's a really good tranny.
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